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« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2006, 10:49:54 AM »
Meal Assembly Business in general is not as good as it appears.

Problems:

1)  It is much more of a comittement for the customers to become regular customers than it seems.  Most just come because it is a neat idea, not to change their regular meal habbits.

2)  IT IS IN NO WAY A PART TIME BUSINESS TO RUN, it takes 24/7 just like any other regular business.

3)  With that in mind there are much better businesses to purchase than one that has capped earning potential.

4)  The food is not all that great.

5)  As with the case with Super Suppers, they have already flooded the Dallas/Fort Worth market causing 5 stores to close INCLUDING ONE THE CHIEF SALES PERSON FOR SUPER SUPPERS OWNED.

6)  The startup cost are $175K MINIMUM, don't let anyone tell you different

7)  The summers are horrible, big money losing time - Sorry new owners but you are about to find this out when school gets out.

8)  We thought having several opening in the same area would be good for advertising and PR but because all the owners were lied to in that previously mention UFOC, noone had any money left after they opened to do any advertising.  

9)  As for the Super Suppers corp. office, they offer nothing but lies.

Now if you are still considering buying here what you need to do:

1)  Yes, call current owners AND CALL EVERYONE IN YOUR AREA and asked about everything you want to know and if they are not helpful they are not doing well.

2)  Research all the franchises and all the people who work in the corporate office, don't just believe what they tell you.

3)  OPEN ONE IN A CITY THAT DOES NOT HAVE ANY OR VERY FEW AND BEGIN ADVERTISING ABOUT 4 TO 6 MONTHS IN ADVANCE.  The Super Suppers in cities where they are the only one are doing well.

4)  If you are in this situation count on selling your store in a year or two before the city fills up with them.

5)  What every the franchise tells you your startup cost are DOUBLE IT.

If you are still considering the meal assembly business - don't franchise, run it out of your house are a cheap store front.  All the bells and whistles the franchises are throwing out there are not as important to the customers as quality and price.

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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2006, 12:18:42 PM »
Meal Assembly Owner is correct.  You are getting more information from Super Suppers than the others because they are money whores.  They are selling to anyone and everyone with reckless regard to who they are, what they know, and how much money they have.  This stragey is killing them and the other franchises because they are setting stores up for failure by selling to owners who do not have enough capital to run them properly.



Lawsuit accuses Curves founder of fraud, threats

03/26/2005

Associated Press


A lawsuit seeking more than $20 million accuses the founder of Curves International of defrauding seven people who sold franchises for the fast-growing chain of no-frills fitness clubs for women.

The plaintiffs claim they're due the money for helping Gary Heavin turn his Waco-based company into the world's No. 1 fitness center in terms of number of clubs.

Since the mid-1990s, Curves has grown to more than 8,400 franchises in all 50 states and 28 countries. One in every four fitness clubs in the United States is a Curves. By comparison, Gold's Gyms and Bally Total Fitness have about 1,000 facilities between them.

In the lawsuit filed this month in state district court in Waco, seven former friends and associates of Heavin allege they quit their jobs, mortgaged homes, maxed out credit cards and slept in their cars to help Heavin launch Curves in the early years on the promise he would share the wealth once the company took off.

Instead, they claim, Heavin "changed the rules" and forced them to accept a fraction of the proceeds he promised them at the risk of being fired.

"This lawsuit is baseless," Curves spokeswoman Becky Frusher said. "Unfortunately, when you become a company of our size, you become a target for frivolous lawsuits."

The suit acknowledges that the plaintiffs signed a subsequent, different agreement with Heavin three years ago.

Plaintiffs include [h]San Hance [/h]of Tarrant County; Don Buster and Robert Findley, both of McLennan County; Charles Cunningham of Tennessee; Cathy Reardon of Iowa; David Mesmer of New York; and Darrel Payne of Canada.

The lawsuit names Heavin and company attorney Roger Schmidt as defendants.

"We truly regret that discussions to resolve this dispute were not successful and that recourse to the courts has become necessary," said Richard D. Yeomans, an Austin attorney who represents the plaintiffs. "We look forward to a full airing of the matter."

Heavin and his wife, Diane, have donated millions to charities and other causes, including $5 million in September 2003 to the Family Practice Center, McLennan County Abstinence Project and the Care Net Pregnancy Center.

But the lawsuit alleges fraud, deceit, intimidation and threats by Heavin.

According to the suit, Heavin turned to the plaintiffs and others when he was beginning to sell his Curves franchises and promised them that if they were willing to take a risk and invest their own time and money, he would reward them for their efforts.

"Heavin told plaintiffs that he was a committed Christian, that he conducted his business based on biblical principles of honesty and integrity and that he would never try to cheat them," the suit says.

Heavin, 49, was a millionaire by age 30 after taking over a failing health club in Houston and expanding it into a chain of 17 clubs.

In 1992, Heavin and his second wife, Diane, opened the first Curves club.

Three years later, Heavin was selling franchises, and by 1998 there were 500. Curves aims to have more than 25,000 ? including 8,000 in Asia and 8,000 in Europe ? within five years.




Looks like Sam Hance is being sued at Super Suppers for the same thing he is sued Curves for?

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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2006, 02:40:06 PM »
I sure wish I would have found these blogs and other web sites before I purchased a Super Suppers - meal assembly owner is right on, this is a full time business (not what I was sold other wise I would have bought a business that doesn't have a low profit potential).  By all means call other owners before you buy and if they say they are making a large profit - ask them to prove it and they won't be able to.

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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2006, 01:31:26 PM »
Another fast growing, successful franchise is Let's Eat!  Check it out a www.letseatdinner.com

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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2006, 10:39:46 PM »
Wow!! I have been looking into opening one of these meal prep. centers too.  As a mom, this sounds great. I am going to try one out Tuesday and one next week to see how they run things. After reading all these blogs though and finding help on the internet in opening one without franchise fees, I think I am going to go for it and open up my own.  I also am on the East Coast and there are not but a handful out here.  Would love to hear from anyone else on this coast considering this. If we are not too far apart....maybe we can start our own franchise...LOL!

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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2006, 02:47:50 AM »
Quote from: Jack Johnson
Another fast growing, successful franchise is Let's Eat!  Check it out a www.letseatdinner.com
Obvious thread spammer from the company or PR firm that actually makes your company look worse.  Why don't you tell us specifically why your Let's Eat franchise is better than the rest?  Why don't you step in the kitchen (ha) and engage us in a dialogue, maybe we'll both learn something?

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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2006, 07:49:05 AM »
Quote from: irene
Quote from: Jack Johnson
Another fast growing, successful franchise is Let's Eat!  Check it out a www.letseatdinner.com
Obvious thread spammer from the company or PR firm that actually makes your company look worse.  Why don't you tell us specifically why your Let's Eat franchise is better than the rest?  Why don't you step in the kitchen (ha) and engage us in a dialogue, maybe we'll both learn something?
Just like the spammer from Plateescapes above, now look at them==> http://www.plateescapes.com

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« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2006, 02:19:28 AM »
I own and operate an independent meal prep store. After reading the above discussion i am heartened by my decision to go it alone. No franchise fees, no single source vendor and no one to answer to but my customers. For what it's worth, business is booming because we are consistently rated by our customers as the best in the area compared to the franchise stores. It took me a little over one year from idea to opening.

If you have EXTENSIVE Food Service experience, and good taste plus the desire to work 24/7,Go for it.  Otherwise, get into something else. Just like that good corner mom and pop restaurant that keeps you coming back, you need to excel in customer service, good food and a super clean kitchen. If you cannot understand this, go find something else. My wife and I only really see each other on Sunday, and the kids definitely miss their dad, but soon we will be at the point where I can take more time off, as my management candidate nears the level of competence that I require.

We have MANY MULTIPLE repeat customers who recommend us, and it shows in our sales. We opened in the black, and wil realize our ROI in 18 months. (this includes paying myself a nice salary)

And no, we will NEVER franchise, nor will I tell you where we are nor the name of the company. It took a lot of hard work and sweat and money to get us here. Either you have it or you don't !

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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2006, 11:13:30 AM »
Morning Independent Owner:

I too own a meal assembly business....  in St. Petersburg, Florida.  I don't disagree with most of your comments about hard work and dedication.  Just curious though.  Why make the point that you aren't going to announce your name or location.  Seems a little odd.  

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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2006, 12:05:03 PM »
Ummm...just went to www.plateescapes.com and it is not available and no longer in business. Hmmm!!! Don't know what happened there but I definately am opening a location, have already come up with a name and am in the process of incorporating now. I also found a location that I have not signed for yet. After exploring all the different franchises available, why pay those franchise fees when there are so many "mom and pops" out there doing great. I've been to a few and I have to say the "mom and pop" offered the better quality food as far as I'm concerned. Still really nervous and would love to hook up with someone else venturing in this as well.

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« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2006, 02:01:47 PM »
I've looked at some of these franchises as well and had also noticed that Plate Escapes went out of business.  Looked at the Let's Eat one, too, even though it was so brazenly advertised in this forum (shouldn't have rewarded them for that!). Seems like they have a franchise store already going under too.  Add in the comments in this thread about Super Suppers and it appears there are a lot of not-so-successful business models people are trying to sell.  I'm starting to think that the real business model in this industry is to sell franchises as fast as you can and then figure out how to keep them afloat!

I think you're wise to do it yourself - this industry is so young and there are lots of businesses offering franchises without a track record of success.  Doing it yourself may take more effort, but at least you'll be the one wholly responsible for your success or failure.

Good luck!

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« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2006, 02:10:40 PM »
What would the expected average annual revenue be of a meal prep franchise (or mom and pop) in business one year? What are the gross margins and net profit margins?

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« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2006, 10:37:56 AM »
It is important to remember that most of these meal prep centers haven't even been open for a year.

The segment only dates back to around 2002/2003 and anyone in franchising long enough to remember bagel, cellphone, and coffee franchises might think twice before investing in a concept which may well turn out to be a fad. Moreover, there is a separate question (previously discussed on this thread) as to whether a franchisor would add any value over a non-franchised operation.

Certainly there is a demand for the product, but if you look on the Super Suppers site itself and read through some of the press clippings reproduced on the site, you do get a sense that there is a bit of a lemming element here and there may be a shakeout coming. That being said, Super Suppers itself seems to have its act together, which can't be said for some of its competitors.

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« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2006, 06:26:11 PM »
If you are really an owner than you know how unprofitable of a business it is.

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« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2006, 06:29:59 PM »
Yep, we got screwed by Sam Hance also.  What a criminal.  Judie and Bill Byrd are equally guilty for using his scams to profit from.  Sam has closed his owned store but is still selling to other poor saps.